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Kunena Integration 2 years 4 months ago #31212

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Hi there,

Enjoying the Ccomments extension so far but I'd like to add a couple of things to the wish list.

I would like to see Kunena integration similar to the Kunena discuss plugin. For those who are unfamiliar with this plugin it is a comment system that utilizes the Kunena forum. This is achieved by essentially recreating an article in a reconfigured category of the forum based on the category of the article which can then be posted on. As a result, a mini forum basically appears at the bottom of the article which acts as your comments.

There are a couple of very nice features with this software...

1) because all of the comments are displayed in the forum in a structured manner it creates a simple method for front-end moderation.
2) it helps to develop community websites as it gives the end user the choice of commenting directly onto articles or via the forum. The presentation of articles that are re-posted in the forum appear very similar to normal forum posts so this helps to promote more in-depth discussion on the topic.

I am new to Ccomments but one of the things I haven't come across yet is an ability to conduct bulk moderation of comments from the front-end. This is a useful feature for any site that has volunteer moderators etc. Creating a Kunena integration would allow you to kill 2 birds with 1 stone as the analogy goes.

This is something that would be of personal interest to my company and given our environment it is likely that we would need a couple of extra features for the plugin described above to work in our circumstance. I thought it would be useful to discuss this feature publicly but please contact me privately if you would be interested in sorting out a solution for this development.

Thanks.

Kunena Integration 2 years 4 months ago #31213

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Just an after thought...

If we could find a way of migrating comments from the Kunena Discuss plugin that would also be appreciated :)

Kunena Integration 2 years 4 months ago #31226

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Around 2009 I was helping build the new website for a popular german hardware online magazine. Back then the site was build with Joomla 1.5 and they were using vBulletin. They wanted to have a discussion exactly what you are describing above. Ability to comment both in the article and in vBulletin. So we've created an SQL stored procedure to update the database on new comment or on new forum post.

With that said, although I'm keen on doing something like this again (If I'm being paid) I don't really see the value in it for the ccomment users. If you really want to have a forum to discuss, then one can use the kunena discuss plugin + kunena. Why should ccomment be able to do what the kunena discuss is already doing? I don't like to reinvent the wheel over and over again.

What do you mean with structured moderation? When you open an article and if you are moderator you are able to delete the comments from the frontend with just a click?

Migrating the comments from kunena discuss is certainly possible but a little more complicated. The comments are not stored in a kunenadiscuss table, but in kunena itself. The kunena discuss table is merely just a mapping table of a content to a kunena post. So it requires few more queries to get everything that one would need.

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Daniel

Kunena Integration 2 years 4 months ago #31232

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Hi Daniel,

Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

By structured moderation I was referring to having the comments layed out in a convenient manner all together for moderation as you would get the forum. You currently get this in the backend with Ccomments where all the comments are listed in chronological order of posting to make moderation easy but there is not a similar system for frontend moderation from what i've seen. The value of this is tackling the issue of when someone posts abusive content on an article that is a couple of months old as this can be hard to pick up for moderators with only frontend access as they dont have a chronological list of comments.

As for the general point of reinvesting the wheel, I have to be honest and say that after using both solutions Ccomments is a much nicer piece of software. Although having comments post to the forum is a nice a feature it is a shame to have to use a worse commenting system to achieve it.
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